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Offline LloydFontillas

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PLO Hand
« on: August 12, 2011, 05:56:39 PM »
I was playing a low limit PLO game last month (10-20) with a lot of money on the table. I open for the pot (70) with Ad Kd 3s 5s I got re potted by the guy on my left to 240, 3 others call and I call (5way action) Flop comes 5d 4s Qs... I check the guy on my left bets 500 and the the other 3 call again and I call.. Pot is now 3,700 total and I got 4,500 left... turn is 7c... I checked and the guy on my left pots.. 1 guys mucks the others call.... I tanked!!... I will tell you all what I did and why.. What would you have done at this point...  :-X

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 10:03:54 PM »
I'd probably muck.

Playing against too many players on the turn and you're not drawing to any nut hands.  I mean, what do you do when you hit a straight or a flush lol?

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 12:50:08 PM »
I'd probably muck.

Playing against too many players on the turn and you're not drawing to any nut hands.  I mean, what do you do when you hit a straight or a flush lol?
As I was tanking... I wanted to sell myself, on that I was drawing to 15 outs.. and you are right about the fact that none of the calculated outs is the nuts.... So I replayed the action in my head.. I peg the guy on my left flopping a set and the others calling with draws just like me... Until the turn comes after I check and the pot is now bet, letting me know 100% the guy on my left did flop the set and the other 2 are only drawing to flush to make that big of a call.. Most likely the first caller has the 2nd nut draw and the 3rd guy has the nut draw.. No re-pop from either 2 gives me the info that I am only 1 drawing to a straight because of the 7 on the turn, with no raise also tells me that no one has hit the straight as well. Remember the guy on my left re-potted me pre-flop so I am at 100% he did not make the straight as well.

Basically I am down to 6 outs.. with 14,800 in the pot to me!! Facing a 3,700 bet... Now if my read is 100% right?? Do you make the call??

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 10:12:30 AM »
Probably still muck... what'd ya do?

Offline LloydFontillas

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 07:48:36 PM »
I called hit the off 2 on the river shipped the rest of my chips in. Got a crying call by the guy behind me and the other 2 all well!!! Event though it was like 3rd nut hand I knew it woud be good!! Yum yum gimme some!! Hahahaha!!

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 12:15:06 PM »
I called hit the off 2 on the river shipped the rest of my chips in. Got a crying call by the guy behind me and the other 2 all well!!! Event though it was like 3rd nut hand I knew it woud be good!! Yum yum gimme some!! Hahahaha!!

nice hand sir . . . don't tell me your not lucky in cards  :P

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 09:37:55 PM »
I called hit the off 2 on the river shipped the rest of my chips in. Got a crying call by the guy behind me and the other 2 all well!!! Event though it was like 3rd nut hand I knew it woud be good!! Yum yum gimme some!! Hahahaha!!

nice hand sir . . . don't tell me your not lucky in cards  :P
Actually, I think he was lucky to hit the deuce... But, it was still a great read knowing that if you got there that the hand would be good when you know that it is not the nutz!!

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 07:34:45 AM »
Your hand is not good enough to be opening in EP.  You can limp, but you are really only playing the AKs, with 2 danglers that add very little equity unless HU.  In a FR game, you should generally open fold this hand, although a limp in a passive game is ok.

In a 5 way pot with that kind of action in front of you, you have completely missed the flop.  It's basically an auto fold here.  Peeling off a card here is only good if its extremely cheap, and if your stacks are deeper.  Calling 500 essentially makes it a low SPR hand, and you are basically calling for a single out on the turn, the 2d.  This would be the only card that really justifies you continuing, although its not even the current nuts.

I would have liked the fold preflop, or the flop.  As played, I'm not sure why the tank was necessary if he bet 3700 and you have 4500 behind.  Nobody is folding for 800 more at this point regardless of what they currently hold.

Drawing to so many non-nut outs multi-way isn't usually a good idea.




I was playing a low limit PLO game last month (10-20) with a lot of money on the table. I open for the pot (70) with Ad Kd 3s 5s I got re potted by the guy on my left to 240, 3 others call and I call (5way action) Flop comes 5d 4s Qs... I check the guy on my left bets 500 and the the other 3 call again and I call.. Pot is now 3,700 total and I got 4,500 left... turn is 7c... I checked and the guy on my left pots.. 1 guys mucks the others call.... I tanked!!... I will tell you all what I did and why.. What would you have done at this point...  :-X

Offline LloydFontillas

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 07:52:58 PM »
Your hand is not good enough to be opening in EP.  You can limp, but you are really only playing the AKs, with 2 danglers that add very little equity unless HU.  In a FR game, you should generally open fold this hand, although a limp in a passive game is ok.

In a 5 way pot with that kind of action in front of you, you have completely missed the flop.  It's basically an auto fold here.  Peeling off a card here is only good if its extremely cheap, and if your stacks are deeper.  Calling 500 essentially makes it a low SPR hand, and you are basically calling for a single out on the turn, the 2d.  This would be the only card that really justifies you continuing, although its not even the current nuts.

I would have liked the fold preflop, or the flop.  As played, I'm not sure why the tank was necessary if he bet 3700 and you have 4500 behind.  Nobody is folding for 800 more at this point regardless of what they currently hold.

Drawing to so many non-nut outs multi-way isn't usually a good idea.




I was playing a low limit PLO game last month (10-20) with a lot of money on the table. I open for the pot (70) with Ad Kd 3s 5s I got re potted by the guy on my left to 240, 3 others call and I call (5way action) Flop comes 5d 4s Qs... I check the guy on my left bets 500 and the the other 3 call again and I call.. Pot is now 3,700 total and I got 4,500 left... turn is 7c... I checked and the guy on my left pots.. 1 guys mucks the others call.... I tanked!!... I will tell you all what I did and why.. What would you have done at this point...  :-X
Wow, I guess I will stick to tournament directing.

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 06:37:10 PM »
totally agree with edwinhui

Lloyd, where was this game played?

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 06:12:57 PM »
Midas

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Re: PLO Hand
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 06:15:01 PM »
Don't I get any credit for reading the hand like the poker god that I am, that if I hit the hand that it would be good? Hahahahaha!